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good morning. i'm chris jansing. the chances for getting a big deal to stop us from going over the fiscal cliff aren't looking very good right now. >> there's no trust between both sides here. >> these talks right now are going absolutely nowhere. >> it's almost unimaginable to me that they'll get a deal between the leadership and the white house and it will pass the first time. >> top white house official told me the lines of communication are open between the president and house speaker john boehner, but no one is using them. >> today speaker boehner will put his plan b up for a vote. that bill extends the bush tax cuts for everyone making under $1 million.
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>> then the president will have a decision to make. he can call on the senate democrats to pass that bill or he can be responsible for the largest tax increase in american history. >> to sweeten the deal for house republicans they'll vote on another bill for the automatic defense cuts and cut an additional $200 billion over the next ten years. let me bring in molly ball and washington post correspondent. dana, the president said he'd veto it. what's boehner's strategy here? wh where is he going with this? >> he has to negotiate within his own caucus and it is not at all clear that he had the votes here until he started to sweeten it as you were talking about earlier there. he basically needs to appease the hard right in his caucus and he -- this is why it is so
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unlikely and i think it's always been unlikely that you get anything resembling a deal until the last minute or past the last minute because these guys will not give in unless they absolutely have to. >> republicans seem like they're in a little bit of disarray right now. the conservative club for growth came out against plan b and this is on "the wall street journal" editorial page. by tuesday afternoon even mr. boehner seemed to be throwing up his hands. either way we get a tax increase without a tangible progression on the spending problem. >> is it why the republicans have this? >> this is a significant test of boehner's ability behind a tax increase which is a difficult thing for republicans to vote for. as you mentioned, he walked away from the negotiations with
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obama. the ideal was that they'd come up with something together that they both would agree on. baener will come up with something that the president doesn't agree to and try to force the hand of the democrats in the senate and try to force the hand of the president to do something with that in when and if it passes the house. the first test is in the house. >> the president said he is willing to compromise and let me play what he said just yesterday. >> this is not a situation where i'm, you know, unwilling to compromise. this is not a situation where i'm trying to, you know, rub their face in anything. y think anybody who looks that the objectively would say that coming off my election i have met them at left half way in order to get something done for the country. >> the president did move on revenue. he moved on social security. so what's his next move, dana, now that there's still no deal?
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>> i think he made a reasonable case at the news conference yesterday that the silly part of of all this is that they're not terribly fall apart. you can very easily see how you can get to a deal. he has, indeed, made some serious compromise at this point, but he's also been bludgeoning the republicans to gain the upper hand here and he really hasn't. john boehner may get up to the microphones and say the president will be blamed for the largest tax increase. that's not how the public sees it. the president is in a much stronger position than the republicans. it's a question of how much damage needs to be inflicted on the american public and the economy before they can actually make this deal that everybody knows they need to do. >> there was question whether or not the speaker and president would be meeting today and now it's come to, well, they'll probably see each other today because daniel inouye will be lying in state. what is the leaklihood that these two men will get together
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in the next 24 hours or so? >> i don't know the latest on that. i do know the action is in the house and i'm seeing whether boehner will get the votes on this. he is trying to send this to the members and conservativists that are outside this bill which they say already goes too far and also send a message to the democrats in the white house who say the bill doesn't go far enough. look how hard this is for me. this is the best i can do. >> chris van holland, ranking committee. always good to see you, good morning. >> good to see you this. speaker boehner's plan b is the latest example of the gop walking out of negotiations. so what will happen today when plan b comes up for a vote. >> that's exactly right, chris. what you see is speaker boehner has decided to leave the talks, leave negotiations with the president and try to pass this
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plan b which is going nowhere. the president has already said he would veto the legislation. it's another attempt to try to shield very high income earners from the fiscal cliff at the expense of the rest of the country. what's happening here is that speaker boehner cannot sell a reasonable compromise to what is a very right-wing, extreme, tea party caucus, and that's why a proposal that all objective parties would agree is the reasonable compromise and the one that the president has put on the table cannot make it through the house right now. that's speaker baener's assessment and he's walking away from the table and he's trying to do his own thing, but the clock is clicking. will -- house democrats are united along with the president and senate democrats. >> you don't think there are imposing sectors? >> i can't say for sure and
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you'll have an overwhelming number if not all house democrats opposing this. the reason we support the balanced approach that the president has set forth, a lot of the members are uncomfortable already with the compromises the president has made. i mean, he has given on very important areas, you mentioned some of them in the lead-in. so democrats in the house already have heartburn, but many are willing to, you know, take what is a compromise, recognizing that you don't get everything your way. again, that assumes certain fixes to the proposal even the president has put on the table. >> given the situation where we are right now, what are the chances that we go off the fiscal cliff? >> well, unlessspeaker baner and the republican comes back to the negotiating table and unless they're willing to agree to what virtually all americans agree was a reasonable compromise, then they will -- they are going
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to be taking us over the cliff. >> i've been confessed for some time that he needs to get these, and he has to done being people. if he loses 17 members or less his caucus he risks will not being speaker on january 3rd. that's one of the reasons why he's walking this tightrope and unfortunately it mean he's putting his own caucus over the party. >> he said it's actually what democrats want. let me play that for you. >> it appears to me that the president and howard dean as well as one of the leading senators patty murray has said no, let's go over the cliff
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because they see political victory at the bottom of the cliff, which is one, as you say, blaming republicans and number two, they get all of these tax increases and revenue that they can spend on other new programs. >> do you and other democrats see political victory at the bottom of the cliff? >> you know, that's nonsense and the president has made very clear. he about this press con prens yard and he's going offer the pabl. he's come down from 1.2 trillion in cuts if you include interest savings and boy the way, that's on top of the $1 trillion in cuts that were part of the control act. that was more than two to one cuts to revenue ratio, and so you come to a point where you have to ask what is it that republicans in the house want?
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and the reality is that because they have such an extreme caucus that is way out of touch with the mainstream in this country they can't stomach what the overwhelming majority of people in this country would agree was a reasonable compromise. that's exactly what's happening here and the american people know it and that's reflected in the polls. >> congressman chris van holland. good to see you. >> you, too. >> we talked about the republicans and fsht all of the democrats are happy either. if that ends up being part of the deal could that be where the president loses votes on the democratic side? >> yeah. the fact that we haven't talked about this yet is because there hasn't been nearly as much drama and descent as we have in the republican side and there has been outcry about propose cuts to medicare that the president has signaled he's willing to stomach, but we haven't gotten
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to that stage because the major question remains what republicans and what activists on the right are willing to accept. you will see some dissent if it gets to the point where that ball is back in the administrations and the democrats court. if anything, it could be good for them to show that they're they're in -- realistically, is it moot because there's no real deal to work with anyway or is this a test as well on how far the president can go? >> yeah. i don't -- i don't agree with mole. i don't think the president is being tested at all right now to the extent that speaker boehner is. this is a republican story right now. if and when there's a deal as they will have to do there will be enough votes among democrats
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and republicans to get it through both chambers. what speaker boehner is worried about he won't have a majority of republicans and that's perilous as congressman van holland was saying for his ten-year speakership. he's in the hot seat, the president will get them all types of campaigns and that's how it will be, he'll will sorry brief that. >> david, molly ball, thank you both. >> thanks. four state officials are out after a report that criticize the the security in benghazi. eric boswell resigned yesterday, three others were relieved of their duties. meantime, members of a senate and house foreign affairs commiter questioning state department officials about the benghazi attack today. the senate wrapped up its hearing moments ago. secretary clinton was set to testify and suffered a
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the search for an answer to the question y continues for the newtown, connecticut, massacre. new information this morning that gunman adam lanza apparently wanted to become a marine. dan bury news types reports that if it didn't happen he wanted to join another branch of the military, but his mother squashed those plans because lanza didn't like to be touched. profeelers and jennegeneticists are -- he's studied the psychology of mass killers and terrorists and wrote about the similarities in the new york times op ed. good morning. >> thanks for having me. >> your piece was titled "what
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drives suicidal mass killers" and you wrote for years the conventional wisdom has been that suicide terrorists are rational political actors while suicidal rampage shooters are meanta willy disturbed loners, but they have far more in common than recognized. >> they have a tremendous amount in common. underneath it all is the desire to kill and be killed, but really, i point to three major factors, mental illness and suicidal desires, perceived victimization. they feel that their pain is someone else's fault or they've been oppressed and bullied and the third factor is they want attention and social recognition and they want to get that by these attacks and they will get that after their deaths result in fame and glory. >> are their reasons pretty intense and personal. i'm thinking about the other reports that adam lanza who is
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apparently close to almost no one but his mother that she had been traveling more, there were some reports that she was talking about potentially having him institutionalized. are the reasons when you get to the core of it often deeply personal and not some bigger agenda? >> absolutely. that's really a great point and it's a point that's often missed. you know, these people often want to be part of something bigger and want to seem more important than they are so they cling to politics and ideology, but if you look in their lives you see clearly that something goes terribly wrong, they can't cope with it, they blame their problems on someone else and they lash out for personal reasons. >> you also found something chilling, that one of the columbine killers eric harris wrote in his journal. tell us about that and what it tells you that helps you understand sort of the psychology of all this. >> sure. well, i have the exact quote here and this is something that eric harris wrote in his journal three years before 9/11.
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he said that he would like to, quote, hijack a hell of a lot of bombs and crash a plane into new york city with us inside firing away as we go down. as you said, it's chilling. it's eerie. when you hear a quote like that you can no longer deny the connection between these rampage shooters and suicide terrorist ands it seems pretty clear if eric harris had been influenced by islamic fundamentalism he would have wanted to be one of those pilots crashing a plane into the world trade center. >> the other question so many people have, professor, and i don't know if there will be an answer is why that school? he did apparently go there for a brief time, but that was years ago and there are reports that his mother was a teacher there were untrue, why target little kids? >> well, one of the things when you do this comparative analysis
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between suicide terrorists on the one hand and rampage shooters on the other hand is you can start to learn about both groups more accurately, and what i would say is when you see suicide terrorists they often target random, innocent strangers, even children to get that attention and what i would speculate here is that adam lanza knew that by targeting random, innocent children he'd get a lot of attention, as well. >> what differentiates someone, the vast majority, obviously, of people who commit suicide and don't hurt others and someone who commits suicide after one of these rampages? >> i think the biggest issue there is this perceived victimization. so the sense that again, your pain is someone else's fault and the desire to blame other people for that. i guess i would say we see that in both these kinds of cases, so suicide terrorists usually blame their problems on western
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infidels and even their inner pain on western infidels and israeli government and rampage shooters blame their pain on their boss, their co-workers, their mother, the school system and so on and so forth. >> adam langforth, it was a fascinating op ed in "the new york times." thank you for taking the time to come on the program. >> on capitol hill right now senator daniel inouye is being honored and his body arrived at the capital rotunda a short time ago and vice president biden is speak at the ceremony there. the public will be allowed to pay respects from noon until 8:00 p.m. tonight. the senator's funeral will be held tomorrow at the national cathedral in monday. inouye died monday at the age of 88. he had served in the senate for 49 years and was a here over world war ii. we're all having such a great year in the gulf,
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vice president joe biden will meet with law enforcement officers from around the country
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today to try to find ways to tighten gun laws in the wake of newtown, connecticut. the vice president is leading a new task force to develop ideas to reduce gun violence by no later than next month. president obama announced the initiative at the white house yesterday. >> the fact that this problem is complex can no longer be an excuse for doing nothing. the fact that we can't prevent every act of violence does not mean we can't steadily reduce the violence and prevent the very worst violence. >> joining me now msnbc political analyst and former rnc chairman michael steele and nbc political analyst former democratic governor of pennsylvania ed rendell. good morning. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> so the president is calling on the new congress to hold votes in january on banning the sale of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition clips and background
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checks on all gun purchases. joe biden doesn't also have relationships on the hill. he's also built them with law enforcement. if he gets their support could that pressure republicans to work with the president on these types of reforms. >> i believe it can, and i think joe biden has a long history of working with members of the nra and certainly law enforcement on these issues in the past. the famous exchange during the debate in '08 and '07 on these issues so he's got credibility, and i think the president is setting up his game plan pretty smartly at this point. right now the country is in a mood to do something, and i think that republicans have to recognize that, number one and number two, that right now again, the president is in a political position where he's got more cards to play than republicans necessarily do, so i think there has to be a willingness to first see what the president puts on the table and try to meet him on that
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point and the nra is the first e effort to hear what they have to say on this, and they'll have a measured and a more com pro hencive approach to addressing this issue. >> what do you think the chances are of that happening, governor and the chances that we've seen some pro-gun democrats stepping up to the plate, but republicans are a much tougher sell. >> think you're right with the question you posed to michael and michael is correct. >> law enforcement is key. joe biden was the guy that sheparded the crime bill in 1994 and people forget the crime bill was defeated on the first vote in the senate and i remember president clinton asked to come to washington and the day after the crime bill came down we appeared before the national association of police chiefs and
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getting the chiefs to talk to their senators and the key to getting the turnaround. >> let me ask you, governor, about this fight as we take it on state by state level and you took issue with bob mcdonald for avoiding a conversation about about whether americans should have access to semiautomatic assault weapons. how important are governors in this entire fight? >> well, i think governors can help. i don't think necessarily that they're going to be the he. i wonder what governor crestie, for example, will say about this issue. look, it's -- it's close to a free pass because i know you know, chris, they took a poll on nra members and all gun owners on some shh everyone have to have a background check before they purchase the gun. 74% of nra members said yes,
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absolutely. and 87% of all gun owners said yes. so this is not that tough a vote sxishgs think michael's right. the nra will make a huge mistake if they come out firing. i think they need to say, look, guns have to be examined and so does the mental health system and so do violence in the movies and things like that. >> i think that there was so much talk, obviously, right afterwards and yet about change and yet at the same time you heard any number of especially republican politicians saying things like this is not the appropriate time to have this conversation when they are still bearing the victims and michael, there is a north carolina tea party group right now that will go forward, we understand with an auction that they'll raffle off two guns including an assault rifle similar to the one used in sandy hook and when asked about it they said this was scheduled before this happened. i mean, we shouldn't think that the opposition to change is
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going go away. >> no. the opposition to change is not going to go away, but what folks need to understand, chris, and you -- i watched your coverage from connecticut. your passion was a reflection of not just that community, but the country. this cut deep and this really resonates with people in a way that i think if we're not careful on the right that this could wind up really, really devastating and the longer term protections of gun advocates and owners want to keep in place under the constitution and under the second amendment to be able to own and, quote, bear arms. if they're careful and you come out hard charging and heavy handed holding options while they're burying kids several hundred miles away. >> who are 6 and 7 years old. i don't think we can say that enough times. >> absolutely. i think we lose an opportunity to actually get this right, and
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i think the country wants that to happen. >> michael steele, governor rendell, always good to have you on the program. a big debate of gun control stems from the number of guns in the country. listen to this statistic. we have 5% of the population worldwide, but we have half of the world's guns. joining me with more on the gun industry is msnbc's richard lui. >> with profits doubling, the u.s. firearms remain one of the most successful industries in the world. stock prices, for instance, of the two largest publicly traded firearm companies skyrocketed from the president's inauguration to the latest high. smith & wesson up over 260% and industry leader sturm, ruger & company up over 500s%. you would have made less money if you bought apple which had a lower gain, but you didn't have to buy stock to win.
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industry jobs commonly reward employees with $145,000 salaries, almost three times the national average according to research and because much is done by hand as sales have grown, so have the number of employees, now up 30% over three years. this while the overall economy lost 10% of its jobs. just take a drive. for every mcdonald's you see, there are ten dealers you can buy a gun from. the leading megadealer is walmart. its broad distribution helped fuel an industry sales comeback after pre-2010 slump. these are the tp ten states and kentucky leads the group with more background checks than residents in the state. connecticut, home of the latest tragedy is ranked 47th in sales per capita. the firearm industry's good fortune isn't all just good fortune. gun issue non-profits that are pro gun have helped to lobby washington and pushed public
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opinion. their funding is 100 times greater than gun control groups said "the washington post." a business school case of of success, but after sandy hook, he and investors with large retirement funds are now questioning if it's all about profit. >> if you look at that number 47th in terms of sales in connecticut and they're arguing as long as you have a federal law then guns can come in from other places and the debate goes on and it was fascinating stuff, richard, thanks so much. a former marine who has been standing watch all week at his children's elementary school could be in a little bit of trouble. jordan prisoner says response from nervous parents in the wake of newtown shooting has been overwhole withmingly positive and marines are threatening to press charges against him since this does account fall under strict rules for proper use of a uniform. ups workers are working overtime on what's expected to
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is paving the way for boys. i'll talk to a girl who took on one of the largest toy makers in the world and won a victory for gender equality and she'll be here in 15 minutes. last-minute holiday shopping is getting more extreme this year in the final weekend before christmas. mandy drury is here with what's moving your money and it's macy's and they're taking last-minute shopping to another level. >> they'll be open for 48 hours straight this coming weekend. can you shop for that long? it will be from 7:00 a.m. tomorrow to 7:00 a.m. on sunday and at that point it will end and macy's will remain open for the remainder of the day. you can see things like 70% off or buy one, get one free signs around the country in places like aeropostale and it will reduce everything in the store by 60% and american eagle outfitters is offering 40% off
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of its purchases and saks is cutting prices on some designer clothing up to 60%. so if you haven't done your shopping yet, chris, you have to get out there and you'll probably get a good discount, as well. >> cnbc's mandy drury, thank you. >> thank you. if you're thinking of making a new change in the new year, u.s. news and world report is up with the top jobs, number five, physician, computer systems analyst, pharmacist, number two is a registered nurse. lots of health care there and the top job for 2013, dentist. the profession is expected to grow more than 20% in the next eight years. questions? anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'.
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. >> welcome to boehnerville where the rich won't pay their fair share, our children's educations will be cut, medicare, medicaid and social security will be put at risk. and the economic recovery would falter. >> the unions seiu and the nea with a combined membership of close to 7 million have put six figures into these ads that are running in arkansas, louisiana, minnesota, missouri and virginia. i want to bring in marykussler for the education association. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> it includes medicare and social security and let me ask you because of your position about education. how does going over the fiscal cliff affect it. >> certainly. going over the fiscal cliff would directly impact education because these across-the-board
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cuts scheduled to take place january 2nd would come into effect and from our perspective it would hit the students most in need, low income children and children in disabilities and they would lose access to over 78,000 educators across the country that are there coming to school every day to help them do their best. you started an online pledge and you're asking people to pledge to support public education as well as working families. how is that going? how many signatures so far? >> we are upwards getting close to 15,000 signatures on that already and we will continue to push because we think it's really important in this entire debate in washington, d.c., that is a lot about dollars and cents that there are real faces and the lives of children are on the line and we need to make sure we keep them front and center. there's no one on either side who has to believe that there will be tough choices made and republicans argue that raising revenue is not going solve the problem. >> i think that is why we, among
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others, are calling for a fair and balanced deal. we know that revenue has to be a part of this and we also recognize the fact that over the past year with the budget negotiations of last summer and the debt ceiling, we've already taken $1.5 trillion worth of cuts and so we're not starting on the netzero. it's time to make sure there are real revenues on the table and that the rich are paying their fair share. >> let me make a turn because teachers, along with all of us were deeply affected by the newtown shootings. does the nea have a position on gun control? >> certainly. i think from our perspective, this is more than just about gun control. we, first of all, want to express our condolences and our thoughts and warmest wishes to the families and the educators in connecticut who were impacted by friday's events. from our perspective, it is more than just gun control, though, that is certainly a piece of it.
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it's making sure the supports there are for students. we should be having access to all students to school counselors, social workers and mental health. we also need to be doing more to invest in anti-bullying prevention measures and thirdly, we do need to ensure that there is some sensible gun laws along the lines of what president obama is calling for in terms of a ban on assault rifles and other things and that makes sure that our classrooms remain to be the learning environments that they should be for children. >> and i'm sure you've heard the argument and we've heard it repeatedly over the last several days that this might never have happened or would have been made much less -- we would have far fewer fatalities if teachers could be armed. >> chris, i'm a mother of two boys. i can tell you when i send them to school i do not want guns in that environment. learning should be a safe
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environment and it should be somewhere that my kids can succeed and certainly arming teachers is not the way because guns have no place in schools. >> mary kusler, thank you very much for taking the time to talk with us. >> thank you so much for having me. >> today's tweet of the day comes from nbc connecticut. a new orleans business owner has purchased $19,000 worth of toys for the hurricane of sandy hook #newtown. there is a new picture of the boxes of mountains of toys. and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news.
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today there is proof one person can make a difference. a victory for a 13-year-old jersey girl who just wanted to get her brother an easy bake oven for christmas, but it only came in pink and purple. well, now hasbro says it will make a gender-neutral easy bake oven and include boys in its ads. with me here is mckenna pope and her mother erica bassio. congratulations. >> thank you.
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>> so you started this online petition, bobby play, the famous chef got behind it, but i think the big thing was this video that you made so let me play a little bit of it. >> i want a dinosaur easy bake oven. >> why don't they have any boys in the easy bake oven commercial? >> because -- because only girls play with it. >> he's very cute, by the way. >> how did you get this idea? >> it really all started because my brother loves to cook and he wants to be a chef when he grows up and he had really wanted an easy bake oven for christmas, and one time i walked into his room and found him taking tortillas and found him cooking them on top of his light bulb. >> not very safe, either. >> no. >> when he started getting an easy bake oven for christmas we figured it would be the perfect gift to gift him and when we were with my parents and i was
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disappointed that they came in pink and purple and only featured girls on the box and in the commercials. >> so you started this petition on change.org and you get 45,000 signatures and then you go to hasbro, what happened? >> at hasbro, they gave me a tour around the factory which i thought was really cool. >> yeah? >> and they showed me a prototype that they have of a black and silver and blue easy bake oven which they said that they will use gender-neutral marketing and include boys in their ads and things like that. it's really awesome. >> mom, i asked you this in the commercial. has she always been like this? did you say, oh, my gosh? what are you getting yourself into now and are you surprised by what's happened? >> oh, i'm incredibly surprised. it was -- she had actually filmed the video with her brother when i was already sleeping, so when i woke up the next morning she said, mom, i started this petition on change.org and i said what petition? and i go online and i look at it
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and i said wow! okay. the morning after she had about a hundred signature and a week later it's 45,000. >> how proud are you? >> i'm incredibly proud. >> the question is mckenna, what are you going to do -- i was going to say what are you going to do when you grow up, but you've already accomplished so much. >> there are so many battles that have been fought and so many injustices and there will be forever, but there are so many different causesio you can fight for, and i guess i have to find another one that hits home to me. >> what does your brother think about this? he thinks it's amazing especially the fact that this new easy bake oven that they are going to come out with next year was -- it was partially inspired by him which he thinks is most amazing thing in the world. >> when he gets his restaurant you let us all know because we'll come. >> definitely. >> thank you both. >> thank you for coming in and happy holidays. >> to you, as well.
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>> mckenna pope and erica bassio. that will wrap up this hour of "jansing & company." chris roberts. thomas roberts is up next. did you have an easy bake oven. >> i can cook tortillas on my light bulb. >> troublemaker. >> thanks so much. america's elected leaders running down the clock and running you toward the edge of the fiscal cliff. get ready to jump, everybody. with little time and little wiggle room left, can the house vote tonight on boehner's plan b and those on the left say it's doa. do you know which tribal land comes in a distant second? here's a hint for you. our intelligence committee refers to it as a hotbed of terrorist activity. >> get young safe and sound home for the holidays. what you need to know about who is getting socked with a white house christmas. we've all had those moments.
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